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Users say, scale 1/2 or 1/5 for TDF14

Message20 Juil 2013, 15:48

Hello everyone:

I do this, for TDF PS3/Xbox users leave their impressions, with reference to the scale preferences play in the next installment of the game.

What is the scale that you would like to see introduced TDF14?

* Scale 1/2 = 1 km in the game equals actual 500 meters, so it offers greater realism and race pace much more real

* Scale 1/5 = 1km in the game equals actual 200 meters, so it offers less realistic and much more fast races

Thank you all for your contribution to the topic, I look forward to your answers
Dernière édition par Carlos2santos le 20 Juil 2013, 15:56, édité 1 fois au total.
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Re: Users say, scale 1/2 or 1/5 for TDF14

Message20 Juil 2013, 15:55

As I see it, the 1/5 scale is perfect as it is now. They have found a nice balance here and i love it. I don't mind the fact that sprints start around 1,5 km before the finishing line. ;)
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Re: Users say, scale 1/2 or 1/5 for TDF14

Message20 Juil 2013, 16:41

My opinion is that the scale 1/2 should recover half, was the great feature of the game in TDF 11 and 12. This scale made us unforgettable moments in racing and was offering us a greater realism than the current scale, which see very fast and crazy and has nothing to do with actual cycling and cycling is very close to arcade. As a faithful follower of cycling, the previous scale transmit many better feeling and more real than the present. Every time I get spectacular mountain passes TDF13 as Mont Ventoux or Alpe d'Huez, I remember with sadness as uploading scale would have been 1/2, or stages which are excesive chrono short because of the scale, well as the sprints that are made more than 1km from the finish.
Besides no sense played about 200 kms a flat stage, I think any user performs, so do not see the sense in designing them in full.
What was a great bike simulation game and had a good base as TDF12 for continuity, since this year has taken another direction, becoming more arcade game to meet the requests of "casual users", leaving followers forgotten pure both cycling more, as the TDF for consoles, which have been supporting the game since its appearance in 2011 with the illusion of seeing every year a better game. But after seeing the direction the game has taken this year in many respects, I personally and many other users who are part of forums where I belongand just saying , I will raise further support this game in future installments, if continuous in this arcade gameplay.
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Re: Users say, scale 1/2 or 1/5 for TDF14

Message20 Juil 2013, 17:46

Carlos2santos a écrit:My opinion is that the scale 1/2 should recover half, was the great feature of the game in TDF 11 and 12. This scale made us unforgettable moments in racing and was offering us a greater realism than the current scale, which see very fast and crazy and has nothing to do with actual cycling and cycling is very close to arcade. As a faithful follower of cycling, the previous scale transmit many better feeling and more real than the present. Every time I get spectacular mountain passes TDF13 as Mont Ventoux or Alpe d'Huez, I remember with sadness as uploading scale would have been 1/2, or stages which are escevivamente chrono short because of the scale, well as the sprints that are made more than 1km from the finish.
Besides no sense played about 200 kms a flat stage, I think any user performs, so do not see the sense in designing them in full.
What was a great bike simulation game and had a good base as TDF12 for continuity, since this year has taken another direction, becoming more arcade game to meet the requests of "casual users", leaving followers forgotten puritas both cycling more, as the PTO for consoles, which have been supporting the game since its appearance in 2011 with the illusion of seeing every year a better game. But after seeing the direction the game has taken this year in many respects, I personally and many other users who are part of forums where I belongand just saying , I will raise further support this game in future installments, if continuous in this arcade gameplay.




I totally agree with you, Carlos ...!

Scale 1/5 is MOTO - Cycling :-(
Scale 1/2 is CYCLING :-)

TDF is a cycling game, therefore, the scale 1/2 must be correct in the future ...

Play complete stages, is UNNECESSARY, since now, in TDF2013, we simulate many more sections, which in TDF2012 and TDF2011 ...

Casual gamers are not going to buy this game every year ...
Only good CYCLING enthusiasts will be faithful to TDF ... !

If we also no add a ONLINE Mode ... TDF2013 The AI ​​is much lower than the IA of TDF2012 ... The fatal Pinganillo don't works correctly, and you don't have the agility to quickly fix ... Cyanide, DO NOT LISTEN to their FAITHFUL USERS as Cyanide, remains committed to offering MOTO - CYCLING, I think LOST MANY FAITHFUL buyers, and will be very short the future of TDF ...

Cyanide think that is more convenient to work with a "incorrectly programmed" 1/5 scale, to not return to the Great 1/2 scale ...

CYCLING?, Or MOTO - Cycling ...? That is the question ...!

Cyanide has the solution ... But if you bet on MOTO - Cycling, I'll not spend my money on next TDF, because I have the Great TDF2012,and I don't LIKE, this ARCADE and uncontrolled gameplay that want to impose by force, for "fun" to casual users, TDF2013 sold tomorrow, to buy FIFA14, PES14, COD, etc ...

All other news from TDF2013, are fine, but NOT SUFFICIENT, to make me forget the big shit that is the scale 1/5 ... !

I am very angry with the future that Cyanide want for TDF, and their meet to the "casual" users of MOTO - Cycling Express and ARCADE, hassle ... :-(

Very unfortunate!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdmpc_mDX0
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Re: Users say, scale 1/2 or 1/5 for TDF14

Message20 Juil 2013, 18:27

Layo a écrit:
Carlos2santos a écrit:My opinion is that the scale 1/2 should recover half, was the great feature of the game in TDF 11 and 12. This scale made us unforgettable moments in racing and was offering us a greater realism than the current scale, which see very fast and crazy and has nothing to do with actual cycling and cycling is very close to arcade. As a faithful follower of cycling, the previous scale transmit many better feeling and more real than the present. Every time I get spectacular mountain passes TDF13 as Mont Ventoux or Alpe d'Huez, I remember with sadness as uploading scale would have been 1/2, or stages which are escevivamente chrono short because of the scale, well as the sprints that are made more than 1km from the finish.
Besides no sense played about 200 kms a flat stage, I think any user performs, so do not see the sense in designing them in full.
What was a great bike simulation game and had a good base as TDF12 for continuity, since this year has taken another direction, becoming more arcade game to meet the requests of "casual users", leaving followers forgotten puritas both cycling more, as the PTO for consoles, which have been supporting the game since its appearance in 2011 with the illusion of seeing every year a better game. But after seeing the direction the game has taken this year in many respects, I personally and many other users who are part of forums where I belongand just saying , I will raise further support this game in future installments, if continuous in this arcade gameplay.




I totally agree with you, Carlos ...!

Scale 1/5 is MOTO - Cycling :-(
Scale 1/2 is CYCLING :-)

TDF is a cycling game, therefore, the scale 1/2 must be correct in the future ...

Play complete stages, is UNNECESSARY, since now, in TDF2013, we simulate many more sections, which in TDF2012 and TDF2011 ...

Casual gamers are not going to buy this game every year ...
Only good CYCLING enthusiasts will be faithful to TDF ... !

If we also no add a ONLINE Mode ... TDF2013 The AI ​​is much lower than the IA of TDF2012 ... The fatal Pinganillo don't works correctly, and you don't have the agility to quickly fix ... Cyanide, DO NOT LISTEN to their FAITHFUL USERS as Cyanide, remains committed to offering MOTO - CYCLING, I think LOST MANY FAITHFUL buyers, and will be very short the future of TDF ...

Cyanide think that is more convenient to work with a "incorrectly programmed" 1/5 scale, to not return to the Great 1/2 scale ...

CYCLING?, Or MOTO - Cycling ...? That is the question ...!

Cyanide has the solution ... But if you bet on MOTO - Cycling, I'll not spend my money on next TDF, because I have the Great TDF2012,and I don't LIKE, this ARCADE and uncontrolled gameplay that want to impose by force, for "fun" to casual users, TDF2013 sold tomorrow, to buy FIFA14, PES14, COD, etc ...

All other news from TDF2013, are fine, but NOT SUFFICIENT, to make me forget the big shit that is the scale 1/5 ... !

I am very angry with the future that Cyanide want for TDF, and their meet to the "casual" users of MOTO - Cycling Express and ARCADE, hassle ... :-(

Very unfortunate!


I read your words Layo and I have the feeling to be listening to me myself.
True followers of this game, are the authentic cycling fans and casual users, who can purchase this year but the next game and not buy it.
We are always every year supporting the TDF, as we did from the beginning, but this implies by Cyanide try to improve every year a little more, as doing so TDF12 Was where we offered a pure cycling spectacular simulation.
But after what they have done with some features of the game in TDF13 making a motorcycle arcade game cycling as you say, not listening to the opinions regarding the changes of his most faithful followers, I wont keep buying the game seriously in the coming years.
I saved well like your my TDF12 and enjoy not until you show me that the game is back to the brilliance of its inception (TDF11 and TDF12). Though I want to be optimistic and think that TDF14, excellent scale 1/2 recover half, IA and earpiece.
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Re: Users say, scale 1/2 or 1/5 for TDF14

Message20 Juil 2013, 19:03

Carlos2santos a écrit:
Layo a écrit:
Carlos2santos a écrit:My opinion is that the scale 1/2 should recover half, was the great feature of the game in TDF 11 and 12. This scale made us unforgettable moments in racing and was offering us a greater realism than the current scale, which see very fast and crazy and has nothing to do with actual cycling and cycling is very close to arcade. As a faithful follower of cycling, the previous scale transmit many better feeling and more real than the present. Every time I get spectacular mountain passes TDF13 as Mont Ventoux or Alpe d'Huez, I remember with sadness as uploading scale would have been 1/2, or stages which are escevivamente chrono short because of the scale, well as the sprints that are made more than 1km from the finish.
Besides no sense played about 200 kms a flat stage, I think any user performs, so do not see the sense in designing them in full.
What was a great bike simulation game and had a good base as TDF12 for continuity, since this year has taken another direction, becoming more arcade game to meet the requests of "casual users", leaving followers forgotten puritas both cycling more, as the PTO for consoles, which have been supporting the game since its appearance in 2011 with the illusion of seeing every year a better game. But after seeing the direction the game has taken this year in many respects, I personally and many other users who are part of forums where I belongand just saying , I will raise further support this game in future installments, if continuous in this arcade gameplay.




I totally agree with you, Carlos ...!

Scale 1/5 is MOTO - Cycling :-(
Scale 1/2 is CYCLING :-)

TDF is a cycling game, therefore, the scale 1/2 must be correct in the future ...

Play complete stages, is UNNECESSARY, since now, in TDF2013, we simulate many more sections, which in TDF2012 and TDF2011 ...

Casual gamers are not going to buy this game every year ...
Only good CYCLING enthusiasts will be faithful to TDF ... !

If we also no add a ONLINE Mode ... TDF2013 The AI ​​is much lower than the IA of TDF2012 ... The fatal Pinganillo don't works correctly, and you don't have the agility to quickly fix ... Cyanide, DO NOT LISTEN to their FAITHFUL USERS as Cyanide, remains committed to offering MOTO - CYCLING, I think LOST MANY FAITHFUL buyers, and will be very short the future of TDF ...

Cyanide think that is more convenient to work with a "incorrectly programmed" 1/5 scale, to not return to the Great 1/2 scale ...

CYCLING?, Or MOTO - Cycling ...? That is the question ...!

Cyanide has the solution ... But if you bet on MOTO - Cycling, I'll not spend my money on next TDF, because I have the Great TDF2012,and I don't LIKE, this ARCADE and uncontrolled gameplay that want to impose by force, for "fun" to casual users, TDF2013 sold tomorrow, to buy FIFA14, PES14, COD, etc ...

All other news from TDF2013, are fine, but NOT SUFFICIENT, to make me forget the big shit that is the scale 1/5 ... !

I am very angry with the future that Cyanide want for TDF, and their meet to the "casual" users of MOTO - Cycling Express and ARCADE, hassle ... :-(

Very unfortunate!


I read your words Layo and I have the feeling to be listening to me myself.
True followers of this game, are the authentic cycling fans and casual users, who can purchase this year but the next game and not buy it.
We are always every year supporting the TDF, as we did from the beginning, but this implies by Cyanide try to improve every year a little more, as doing so TDF12 Was where we offered a pure cycling spectacular simulation.
But after what they have done with some features of the game in TDF13 making a motorcycle arcade game cycling as you say, not listening to the opinions regarding the changes of his most faithful followers, I wont keep buying the game seriously in the coming years.
I saved well like your my TDF12 and enjoy not until you show me that the game is back to the brilliance of its inception (TDF11 and TDF12). Though I want to be optimistic and think that TDF14, excellent scale 1/2 recover half, IA and earpiece.


totally agree, I loved the thrill of winning a mountain stage in the tdf 2012, it was very difficult and very entertaining thanks to the scale, and now in this 2013 full tour finished it in one day, winning most of stages and taking big differences with Andy Schleck.
I want to return the old scale and the former IA!
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Message20 Juil 2013, 22:10

I have the feeling that with this 1/5 scale, Cyanide just want to hear and gratify at childrens between 8 and 12 years old, that they needed a quick game and ARCADE no hassle, with at easy AI, allowing them to win the Tour with Peter Sagan (for example...)

SHOCKING...!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdmpc_mDX0
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Re: Users say, scale 1/2 or 1/5 for TDF14

Message20 Juil 2013, 23:09

Layo a écrit:I have the feeling that with this 1/5 scale, Cyanide just want to hear and gratify at childrens between 8 and 12 years old, that they needed a quick game and ARCADE no hassle, with at easy AI, allowing them to win the Tour with Peter Sagan (for example...)

SHOCKING...!


I won the Tour with Cyril Gautier :cry:
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Message21 Juil 2013, 00:01

Le Gruppetto a écrit:
Layo a écrit:I have the feeling that with this 1/5 scale, Cyanide just want to hear and gratify at childrens between 8 and 12 years old, that they needed a quick game and ARCADE no hassle, with at easy AI, allowing them to win the Tour with Peter Sagan (for example...)

SHOCKING...!


I won the Tour with Cyril Gautier :cry:


Ohh My God ...!

TDF2013 bores me, because of this scale that ruins the feelings playable, and poor AI, which makes it very easily achieve our goals ...

The 1/5 Scale and TDF2013 AI, "is a joke that Cyanide has spent at everybody..." !
It is a nightmare that I would wake up right now ...! :-(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdmpc_mDX0
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Re: Users say, scale 1/2 or 1/5 for TDF14

Message21 Juil 2013, 01:32

Le Gruppetto a écrit:
Layo a écrit:I have the feeling that with this 1/5 scale, Cyanide just want to hear and gratify at childrens between 8 and 12 years old, that they needed a quick game and ARCADE no hassle, with at easy AI, allowing them to win the Tour with Peter Sagan (for example...)

SHOCKING...!


I won the Tour with Cyril Gautier :cry:


Win a Tour with Gautier as your Le Gruppetto, or winning a Tour with Drombowski as I saw that another user has made, and I find more than enough evidence to realize that this is an arcade game TDF13 all. I on the 4 tours I've played so far, I always won the first stage leakage Tour, no response from Omega, Argos, Cannondale or Lotto. Cyanide in that have made cycling that huge simulation game called TDF12, what happened to your perfect scale and relentless IA.

Le Gruppetto you should expose your dissatisfaction with the game, so that their creators can know and try to rectify and so back on track following that came from the past, because I have fear of what will happen in the future of TDF viewing this TDF13 and not return to the path past, I surely like many others I will not be there to see it.
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