Users say, scale 1/2 or 1/5 for TDF14

I like playing the full stages from start to finish. If the 1/5 is the price for it, then I vote for 1/5.

I didn't buy the last 2 because of the "must to simulate" sections, and I bought and love this game for giving every moment to my hand.

I like playing the full stages from start to finish. If the 1/5 is the price for it, then I vote for 1/5.

I didn't buy the last 2 because of the "must to simulate" sections, and I bought and love this game for giving every moment to my hand.

I agree with you about what to play the whole stages, I also like doing. But on the other hand do not like the feelings that this scale gives me 1/5 in various parts of the stages. As the stages develop full scale 1/2 would be perfect and would make a memorable game.

The space on the Blu-ray is not a problem to do it on this scale 1/2, has a capacity of 25 Gb, so you have enough space to do so. TDF13 occupies 4.25 Gb and TDF12 occupied 7.3 Gb, so it does not excuse the disk space to make the steps in 1/2 to full. When we say this are lying.

I like playing the full stages from start to finish. If the 1/5 is the price for it, then I vote for 1/5.

I didn't buy the last 2 because of the "must to simulate" sections, and I bought and love this game for giving every moment to my hand.

I like playing the CYCLING GAME, NOT at MOTO-CYCLING game... If the simulated stages, are the price for return the CYCLING feeling, then I vote for 1/2 scale...

I not buy the next TDF2014, if the Cyanide guys repeat this ARCADE MOTO - Cycling...

Many users of TDF2012, are very disappointed with this "TDF2013 Cycling concept..." and I do not believe that this affected community, bet again for this ARCADE format, in which, (for example), you can brake the bicycle, with the Team Comm... ¿?¿?¿?

Unfortunate ...!

Many users of TDF2012, are very disappointed with this "TDF2013 Cycling concept..."

I don't think this is the case at all. As I see it, SOME (not many) users post a lot of the same complaints here. That doesn't mean that the whole community agrees totally and that TDF12 is better. What I have read so far is that people are in general happy with the new edition, but there are of course some big issues (for instance the Tele Comm break as you mention, poor AI etc). I simply don't believe that TDF12 is a better game. And also, nobody forces you to exploit the game with the Tele Comm exploit.

Maybe you will not buy TDF14 as you are clearly disappointed. That's a shame. But there are surely a lot more people that will not buy it if Cyanide announces 1/2 scale with section based gameplay (like TDF12). I don't believe that they will make 1/2 scale with full stages. Don't get me wrong, I won't mind 1/2 scale with full stages, but I am just very sure that Cyanide will not go that way. So if it's 1/5 scale with full stages vs. 1/2 scale with section based gameplay, then I'm sure that most people would like 1/5 combined with great AI.

I like playing the full stages from start to finish. If the 1/5 is the price for it, then I vote for 1/5.

I didn't buy the last 2 because of the "must to simulate" sections, and I bought and love this game for giving every moment to my hand.

I like playing the CYCLING GAME, NOT at MOTO-CYCLING game... If the simulated stages, are the price for return the CYCLING feeling, then I vote for 1/2 scale...

I not buy the next TDF2014, if the Cyanide guys repeat this ARCADE MOTO - Cycling...

Many users of TDF2012, are very disappointed with this "TDF2013 Cycling concept..." and I do not believe that this affected community, bet again for this ARCADE format, in which, (for example), you can brake the bicycle, with the Team Comm... ¿?¿?¿?

Unfortunate ...!

I agree with Layo, in all that talk about the game.
Some features of this TDF13, which have a decisive influence on it is a real cycling which we have mentioned several times on different topics for this forum, are very poor, making an Arcade game and therefore very disappointing for fans TDF12 simulation version. By following this system in these sections of the game in the TDF14, completely ignoring being a true cycling game. I'll keep buying this game not made ​​to satisfy a few casual users, who want to make everything easily with little work on the game.

I as a fan of cycling, cycling want to feel and play really, and if I did not offer TDF14 thus waives continue buying and stay in the store.

With respect to the earpiece of braking on descents, I think a totally ridiculous action. The declines are perfectly reflected in TDF13 and should not change TDF14. If you can not make a descent either, because based on play and practice your performance improvements, this is so for a lifetime. What happens is that some users want everything done with little effort and its users as these absurd requests, are those who are destroying the future of what seemed would be a great biking game.

Many users of TDF2012, are very disappointed with this "TDF2013 Cycling concept..."

I don't think this is the case at all. As I see it, SOME (not many) users post a lot of the same complaints here. That doesn't mean that the whole community agrees totally and that TDF12 is better. What I have read so far is that people are in general happy with the new edition, but there are of course some big issues (for instance the Tele Comm break as you mention, poor AI etc). I simply don't believe that TDF12 is a better game. And also, nobody forces you to exploit the game with the Tele Comm exploit.

Maybe you will not buy TDF14 as you are clearly disappointed. That's a shame. But there are surely a lot more people that will not buy it if Cyanide announces 1/2 scale with section based gameplay (like TDF12). I don't believe that they will make 1/2 scale with full stages. Don't get me wrong, I won't mind 1/2 scale with full stages, but I am just very sure that Cyanide will not go that way. So if it's 1/5 scale with full stages vs. 1/2 scale with section based gameplay, then I'm sure that most people would like 1/5 combined with great AI.

Scale 1/5, makes far more miles are simulated, as those TDF2012, simulated, (see videos on Youtube)

Scale 1/5, makes a port go up Mont Ventoux "skidding cone REAR WHEEL", and getting out of the road if we keep a watchful a second ...

Scale 1/5, makes any cyclist, win more differences get downhill, that go up in the mountains ...

Scale 1/5, produced Sprins of 4 km in flat states

Scale 1/5 makes our cyclists are always closed and locked in the group ... and therefore DOES NOT TEAM COMM 90% of the time ...

Play complete stages, causes us to elope to the "brute force" to earn Alpe d'Huez with Bennati, or win the tour with Goutier, Monfort, Dowmbrowky, etc.. (For example ...)

Do you really think that the true cycling fans, we like this ARCADE MOTO-CYCLING, that the scale 1/5 offers us ...?

¿?¿?¿?

TDF2012 had many bugs, but was CYCLING of TRUTH, not this ARCADE MOTO - Cycling, which Cyanide sold to us as "fun ..."

Is fun a game where you always win easily, and where NOT transmit the sensations of that simulator ...?

The TDF future, will be an ARCADE MOTO-Cycling...?

BIG MISTAKE ... CYANIDE ... BIG MISTAKE ...!

I as a fan of cycling, cycling want to feel and play really, and if I did not offer TDF14 thus waives continue buying and stay in the store.

With respect to the earpiece of braking on descents, I think a totally ridiculous action. The declines are perfectly reflected in TDF13 and should not change TDF14. If you can not make a descent either, because based on play and practice your performance improvements, this is so for a lifetime. What happens is that some users want everything done with little effort and its users as these absurd requests, are those who are destroying the future of what seemed would be a great biking game.

Totally agree with everything you say ...!

Many users of TDF2012, are very disappointed with this "TDF2013 Cycling concept..."

I don't think this is the case at all. As I see it, SOME (not many) users post a lot of the same complaints here. That doesn't mean that the whole community agrees totally and that TDF12 is better. What I have read so far is that people are in general happy with the new edition, but there are of course some big issues (for instance the Tele Comm break as you mention, poor AI etc). I simply don't believe that TDF12 is a better game. And also, nobody forces you to exploit the game with the Tele Comm exploit.

Maybe you will not buy TDF14 as you are clearly disappointed. That's a shame. But there are surely a lot more people that will not buy it if Cyanide announces 1/2 scale with section based gameplay (like TDF12). I don't believe that they will make 1/2 scale with full stages. Don't get me wrong, I won't mind 1/2 scale with full stages, but I am just very sure that Cyanide will not go that way. So if it's 1/5 scale with full stages vs. 1/2 scale with section based gameplay, then I'm sure that most people would like 1/5 combined with great AI.

Layo Exactly, I think 100% like you, with respect to this scale and this TDF13.
And as you point Cyanide is greatly mistaken if he continues on this path in TDF14


Scale 1/5, makes far more miles are simulated, as those TDF2012, simulated, (see videos on Youtube)

Scale 1/5, makes a port go up Mont Ventoux "skidding cone REAR WHEEL", and getting out of the road if we keep a watchful a second ...

Scale 1/5, makes any cyclist, win more differences get downhill, that go up in the mountains ...

Scale 1/5, produced Sprins of 4 km in flat states

Scale 1/5 makes our cyclists are always closed and locked in the group ... and therefore DOES NOT TEAM COMM 90% of the time ...

Play complete stages, causes us to elope to the "brute force" to earn Alpe d'Huez with Bennati, or win the tour with Goutier, Monfort, Dowmbrowky, etc.. (For example ...)

Do you really think that the true cycling fans, we like this ARCADE MOTO-CYCLING, that the scale 1/5 offers us ...?

¿?¿?¿?

TDF2012 had many bugs, but was CYCLING of TRUTH, not this ARCADE MOTO - Cycling, which Cyanide sold to us as "fun ..."

Is fun a game where you always win easily, and where NOT transmit the sensations of that simulator ...?

The TDF future, will be an ARCADE MOTO-Cycling...?

BIG MISTAKE ... CYANIDE ... BIG MISTAKE ...!

Layo Exactly, I think 100% like you, with respect to this scale and this TDF13.
And as you point Cyanide is greatly mistaken if he continues on this path in TDF14

Scale 1/2 is crucial for the TDF is a real game of cycling and transmit the user the true hardness and feelings that live inside the sport, unlike the scale offers 1/5.

Here you have some examples, which clearly show that the scale 1/2 offers greater realism and better sensations as well as experience the game:


COL DE PAILHERES - 15,2 KM Mountain

* Scale 1/2 = 7,6 km real
* Scale 1/5 = 3 km real


MONT VENTOUX - 21,5 KM Mountain

* Scale 1/2 = 10,7 km real
* Scale 1/5 = 4,4 km real


AlPHE D'HUEZ - 14 KM mountain

* Scale 1/2 = 7 km real
* Scale 1/5 = 2,8 km real


COL DU GLANDON - 26,4 KM Mountain

* Scale 1/2 = 13,2 km real
* Scale 1/5 = 5 km real


COL DE LA MADELEINE - 19 KM mountain

* Scale 1/2 = 9,5 km real
* Scale 1/5 = 3,8 km real


MONT REVARD - 15,9 KM Mountain

* Scale 1/2 = 7,9 km real
* Scale 1/5 = 3,1 km real


NICE. NICE - 25 KM of TTT

* Scale 1/2 = 12,5 km real
* Scale 1/5 = 5 km real


AVRANCHES. MONT SAINT MICHEL - 33 KM from TTI

* Scale 1/2 = 16,5 km real
* Scale 1/5 = 6,6 km real


EMBRUN. CHORGES - 32 KM from TTI

* Scale 1/2 = 16 km real
* Scale 1/5 = 6,4 km real

Leí que por lo visto no quisieron hacer un juego que simulara la realidad del ciclismo,sino un juego de ciclismo...Muy bien,paso a detallar cómo se juega a este "JUEGO"de ciclismo...

Etapa llana presumiblemente al sprint.

Coges a un gregario o rodador de tu equipo y lo tratas de meter en la fuga del día.Lo consigues.Hasta aquí todo bien. Haces avance rápido.Cundo llegas a ese menú se puede leer SIMULACION...que paradoja. Simulas simulas simulas...llega el sprint intermedio. Lo ganas.Casi nunca lo disputan los compañeros de fuga.Simulas.Preparas a tu sprinter,sumas más puntos y con suerte tu sprinter se escapa aprovechando la coyuntura...De traca. Simulas.Simulas. Te preguntas para que jugar un tramo sin viento, llano, con el PINGANILLO ROTO!!! a 100km de meta (por ejemplo)con la etapa planteada... Por lo que sigues simulando. Km50 a meta. Avituayas de pasta de almendra a todo el equipo...zzzzzzz Más adelante resuelves la etapa. Resuelves el sprint. Fin.

Tiempo empleado: 20-25 minutos. Tiempo de ciclismo real: 5 min. Tiempo de avance rápido... ZzzZZ

Etapa con puertos pequeños media montaña.

Misma historia. Solo dos diferencias. Disputas los puntos de la montaña y si la quieres liar un poco te haces cada DESCENSO del perfil con plato grande dando power con la "X" cuando la pendiente sea mayor del -3% así no gastas ni barra roja. Nadie te seguirá...Vamos,lo típico...

Etapas de alta montaña.

Sigo? Creo que no es necesario... Aquí hay más opciones y cada uno verá que hace. Cómo decidir el avituallamiento. Desde luego, DESCENSOS? A por todas...Níbali vuela. Los puertos pasan a velocidad de vértigo y, ¿para que jugar un puerto de 10km con escala 1/5 si tengo luego el DESCENSO dónde realmente saco diferencias? Por lo que te vas a la pantalla de avance rápido o SIMULACIÓN y esperas a que ponga "2km para coronar el puerto". Entras, atacas la pancarta y te lanzas en una nueva bajada vertiginosa. Que la etapa termina en "alto"? Avituallamiento full amarillo y para arriba...Por ejemplo.

Dicho esto...Creo que sería más adecuado una escala 1/2,con el modelo de secciones si no queda otra. Porque supongo que toda una etapa con escala 1/2 el usuario que se la juegue entera se tira casi tres horas y puedo ver la idea un poco inverosimil, aunque a mi no me molestaría. Pero bueno, al menos creo que se podrían hacer más secciones o que éstas fuesen más largas, con verdadera competencia de la IA, con descensos sin poder sprintarlos, y que la IA te coja la rueda a no ser que seas un Samuel Sánchez de la vida...Con sprints en condiciones, con fugas que se vengan abajo o no suelan llegar, con un pelotón que se vea ENTERO o que al menos aparezca nuestra posición dentro de él al jugar, con verdadero desgaste en la montaña, viendo a gregarios arropar a su lider y equipos controlando la carrera, no esa locura que se produce en muchos puertos dónde aceleran treinta corredores y no te queda otra que acelerar tu o poner plato grande y DATE PRISA que se acaba el puerto!!! Y tu ahí intentando adelantar corredores que suben rampas del 8% derrapando en las curvas...

TDF2012 con este control del ciclista, la posibilidad de cambiar en cualquier momento de corredor, los objetivos por equipo, tour personalizado y este avituayamiento y Voilá!!! No era tan dificil...

BRUTAL Alpe D´Huez 2 km!!!