Users say, scale 1/2 or 1/5 for TDF14

Bemancio, you're right ... You described very well, the disappointing feeling that TDF2013, occurs when we play this ARCADE and UNREAL GAME...

A mix between the best of TDF2012 and the best of TDF2013, would make a GREAT TDF 2014 ... but it all depends on slowing the accelerated scale, to recover the good feelings, that TDF2012 transmitting at all good cycling fans ...

I 100% agree with you in everything you Bemancio think about TDF13. The way to play this new game of the Tour is exactly like you describe it. This is not the right way to real cycling reprensent many users want, is very far from achieving these characteristics. I hope Cyanide reflect on these errors and correct know next year.

Just look at the statistics I point in the previous post, to realize all important km have removed the game this year, besides taking away realism, strength, sensation and attractive. I only mention some important, of course there are more that I have not.

I agree with both Bemancio as Layo. The best features of TDF12 and TDF13 united in TDF14, would make a great game.

Yep defiantly 1/2 scale or a mix, or maybe the option to choose when in a stage, like a slow-mo button.

Scale 1/2 offers more realism, better feeling and a lot more hardness.
Below I make a comparative chart between the two scales.
It compared the Prologue Stage 1 TDF12 of 6,4 km and TDF13 Stage 19 ITT of 32 km. As you can see in the pictures while we travel the short Prologue TDF12 6,4 Km, in TDF13 with that distance serves to explore the exact middle of the Stage 19 ITT, the distance of the latter well above 25,6 km more accurately.
This evidence demonstrates the best performance on the scale 1/2 to TDF.


TDF12. STAGE 1 (LIEGE - LIEGE 6,4 km of ITT in scale 1/2)




TDF13. STAGE 19 (EMBRUN - CHORGES 32 km of ITT in scale 1/5)




You also say that to complete this Stage 19 ITT Embrun - Chorges TDF13 in scale 1/2 that would be 16 km real, we would have to go exactly 2 times full and half in scale 1/5 this same stage to reach the 16 km real . The difference that offers sensations of realism, hardness and suffering would be a lot higher.

I can't understand you guys for saying that this TDF2013 is not challenging.

Developers gave us hundreds of opportunities to test ourselves.

I finished all objectives with all teams, so yesterday I challenged the online leaderboard. (The "earning money" task) and it was hard, but I reached the 5. place with over 1 240 000 euros, and maybe I will try to improve sometime in the future.

Thereafter I made my biggest challenge in this game today. I won the full 21 stages TDF with Andrey Amador from Movistar. Really! With Amador! This was a hell, and my final time difference over Froome was only 45 seconds, so I found my own limits in this game. Winning with a weaker cyclist is impossible for me. But better players can try to win with Yukiya Arashiro, or I don't know... If you want to test yourself, you can find your personal goals!

But OK, 1/2 scale is good! I just like to play full stages sometimes.

I can't understand you guys for saying that this TDF2013 is not challenging.

Developers gave us hundreds of opportunities to test ourselves.

I finished all objectives with all teams, so yesterday I challenged the online leaderboard. (The "earning money" task) and it was hard, but I reached the 5. place with over 1 240 000 euros, and maybe I will try to improve sometime in the future.

Thereafter I made my biggest challenge in this game today. I won the full 21 stages TDF with Andrey Amador from Movistar. Really! With Amador! This was a hell, and my final time difference over Froome was only 45 seconds, so I found my own limits in this game. Winning with a weaker cyclist is impossible for me. But better players can try to win with Yukiya Arashiro, or I don't know... If you want to test yourself, you can find your personal goals!

But OK, 1/2 scale is good! I just like to play full stages sometimes.

First, Congratulations for completing all objectives ...!

I like to play with you in the online mode, but Cyanide, we have removed this year this possibility, Limited and basic game Moto-Cycling, TDF2013 ...


No need to be a hardcore gamer, to realize that this scale fifth and ARCADE IA, SERIOUSLY hurts the gaming experience of TDF...

In TDF2013, we get things done so unreal, as we win in "Elysian Fields" with Kiryenka without that Omega Pharma, Argos or Canondale, do nothing to stop it ...
Or to win the Tour easily with Andrey Amador, Goutier, Monfort, Dombrowski, etc.. without that Froome or Contador do nothing to stop it ???

Have you tried to win the Tour with Andrey Amador in TDF2012?

You will be much more difficult, LOGICALLY, as would happen on a Real Tour ... and can give you satisfied, if you get with him, a Top10 ...
Winning the Tour, should be available to very few cyclists, and should even be difficult for Alberto Contador himself, (as seen this year in the Real Tour ...)

This IA as ARCADE, ruined our feelings playable, and presents none at opposition, difficulty, challenge, to motivate us to fight against the CPU, as against the great TDF2012, which means, to abandon the game, for lack of Competitiveness and EMOTION ...

Fun you elope 200 km with Voeckler, and win the Tour with him WITHOUT OPPOSITION AI ...? I really bored this cycling ARCADE, designed for children level ...!

Why not obey the earpiece quickly ...?
Why our riders, do not move quickly positions in the group ...?
Why in the CRI, our rivals do not depart, when they will be developed by us, tripping over a few seconds ...?
Why Omega Pharma, Cannondale, Argos, do not fight for the intermediate sprints ...?
Why no fight, in the mountain sprints points...?
Why was defeat so easily in the general classification, with Froome, Wiggins, Contador, etc.. only risking a descent with any rider ...?

What happened to the beta testers this year ... They were sleeping ... ?

None of this happened in TDF2012 ...!

The scale Accelerated fifth and ARCADE IA, have shattered a GREAT GAME OF CYCLING, cycling designed to childrens of 8 years old and 12 years old, level ...! (being very optimistic in my estimate ...)

I gave you an opportunity to TDF2013, and acknowledge the effort of the guys Cyanide, to "improve", but I am very disappointed with the low level of this TDF2013

"We wanted the Great Simulation FiFa / PES, (TDF2012), and Cyanide has deceived us this year, that Great Feeling Playable changing us, for Arcade and Unreal FiFa Street, (TDF2013)"

Winning with a weaker cyclist is impossible for me. But better players can try to win with Yukiya Arashiro, or I don't know... If you want to test yourself, you can find your personal goals!

To win the Tour with Ayashiro, us need that Cyanide fix once and for all, its defective Team Comm, and other BUGS, of which has been reported, and they still have not fixed ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-ZVVJvJ4fE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wizCEnVIutY


GREETINGS!



P.D. It has only been a month since he left the game for sale I've already bored and tired of TDF2013, and I have resumed to playing at the Great TDF2012 ... !
If Cyanide is still committed to this Moto-Cycling Easy Arcade designed for children 8 years old, many users will not buy TDF2014, TDF2015, TDF2016 ... because we have the Best Cycling Game that has developed on consoles ...TDF2012!

I can't understand you guys for saying that this TDF2013 is not challenging.

Developers gave us hundreds of opportunities to test ourselves.

I finished all objectives with all teams, so yesterday I challenged the online leaderboard. (The "earning money" task) and it was hard, but I reached the 5. place with over 1 240 000 euros, and maybe I will try to improve sometime in the future.

Thereafter I made my biggest challenge in this game today. I won the full 21 stages TDF with Andrey Amador from Movistar. Really! With Amador! This was a hell, and my final time difference over Froome was only 45 seconds, so I found my own limits in this game. Winning with a weaker cyclist is impossible for me. But better players can try to win with Yukiya Arashiro, or I don't know... If you want to test yourself, you can find your personal goals!

But OK, 1/2 scale is good! I just like to play full stages sometimes.

I agree with this, the game is as hard as you want to make it. I've won the 21 stages full tour with Sagan, Cancellara, Hushovd, and Chavanel. I'm currently trying to win the full tour with EBH and Gilbert.

If you buy a Soccer Simulator, and win the Golden Ball and the Golden Boot with Genaro Gatuso, (for example), what do you think about this football "simulator"...?
Would it be a good football simulator, or a UNREAL football simulator ...?

With this TDF2013, you win the Tour with Gilbert, ,"without problems...", and this AI is very disappointing for many users that we enjoyed the Great AI and REAL AI of TDF2012...

Yes, of course it's unrealistic that you can win the tour with so many different riders, but in last year's game (2012) it was possible to win the tour with a lot of riders ( Coppel, Tjvg, Monfort, De gent T.Martin,) "without problems", so was Tdf 2012 a bad simulator also because unrealistic riders could win the tour.

The point Im making is that you can make the game as challenging as you want it to be.

Yes, of course it's unrealistic that you can win the tour with so many different riders, but in last year's game (2012) it was possible to win the tour with a lot of riders ( Coppel, Tjvg, Monfort, De gent T.Martin,) "without problems", so was Tdf 2012 a bad simulator also because unrealistic riders could win the tour.

The point Im making is that you can make the game as challenging as you want it to be.

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jejeje... Do you played to the GREAT TDF2012...?

The the Tour de France 2012 route, was ideal for time trial specialist cyclists, who also were are good climbers, so I see VERY LOGICAL, that only the good TDF2012 players, also earned the Tour with a very select group of good cyclists, who met those characteristics, (Tony Martin, Kloden, Monfort, Van Gaarderen, Wiggins, Coppel, and some more ...), and had to do very well, and fight against the CPU maximum, to get this Podium in París ... (If you played TDF2012, you'll know right ...)

This toughness and competitiveness, made TDF2012, was a very REAL and ADDICTIVE game... with a nearly flawless IA ...
The only flaw I detected in TDF2012 AI, is that all the SKY Team, working for Cavendish ... If Cavendish had a puncture in the wheel, Wiggins, Froome, Porte, and all Sky Team, waited for Cavendish ... ¿?¿?¿?

Moreover, the TDF2012 AI was EXCELLENT ...!



So do not understand why Cyanide, has lowered the level of AI, and destroy the great feeling Playable, transmitting TDF2012 ...

I never want to explain TDF2013 problems again, (Team Comm, the absence of opposition from rivals IA, etc.etc.), But the disappointment that we have had this year, has been tremendous ...

Winning the Tour with 45" ahead of the 2nd, should be a triumph of cyclists level like Froome, Valverde, Purito, Nibali, Quintana, and only the best cyclists TOP25..., NEVER should be an objective achieved by level cyclists Andrey Amador, Dombrowski, Goutier, Gilbert, etc ... as it has become a game ARCADE and EASY, where all users, ALWAYS WIN, without opposition from the CPU...

Is this funny ...?

Should I play with Ayashiro to find difficulty and "fun"?


A Tour to be difficult to win, even with Contador, Nibali, Evans, Porte, Quintana, etc.. and only the good players from TDF, should reach the prowess to win with second-level cyclists ...

Cyanide is losing a great opportunity to be a referent leader in Sports SIMULATOR in consoles as Top Spin, nba2k, PES, FIFA FOOTBALL, etc.. because it is determined to want to satisfy casual users that they surely NOT buy TDF every year...

I hope to provide something, all the time we are losing, in reporting our feedbacks ...

Regards...!