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Re: Tour de France : Questions/Answers

Message04 Juin 2015, 16:09

Patatrasse a écrit:
Yoann33 a écrit:Les stats sont pris en compte jusqu'a après liège bastogne liège, c'est ça que tu veux dire ?

A part Alaphilippe, je crains le pire pour les autres coureurs français car ils n'ont pas été très bon jusque là. Pour vous, dans le jeu, c'est Alaphilippe le meilleur coureur français je suppose.. Peux tu citer les "médaillé" pour les coureurs français ? merci

PS : Et sinon, merci pour la diffusion des maillots nationaux dans pro team !


Oui, on doit s'arrêter après Liège Bastogne Liège pour des raisons de délai de production. Liège Bastogne Liège correspond à peu près au moment où la version finale du jeu est faite.

Les notes des coureurs ne prennent pas en compte seulement l'année en cours.

Les 3 meilleurs coureur français
En montagne : Pinot, Péraud, Rolland (et Bardet à égalité).
En vallon : Bardet, Alaphilippe, Gallopin
En sprint : Bouhanni, Démare, Coquard


Romain Bardet has the same level Mountain in the TDF 14 that Jean Christophe Peraud. Does that mean that this year (TDF 15) has worsened the statistic in Mountain Romain Bardet ?.
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Re: Tour de France : Questions/Answers

Message04 Juin 2015, 17:27

Does the effort you make on a stage influence the possibility go get an exceptional form or a bad day in the next stages?
And if you fall, does this have an influence?
And are the different difficulty modes also available in multiplayer mode?

And can you finish wih a rider out of the time limit so the rider has to leave the remainder of the tdf?
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Re: Tour de France : Questions/Answers

Message04 Juin 2015, 23:11

Hello patatrasse

Is there any future that we didnt know??
And is there a chance that multiplayer (online) is comming to TDF2015 ?
And not a question for patatrasse: zijn er ook nederlanders op dit forum ??

Ps thanks patarasse for the quick replys and help.
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Re: Tour de France : Questions/Answers

Message05 Juin 2015, 09:16

Peeters a écrit:Does the effort you make on a stage influence the possibility go get an exceptional form or a bad day in the next stages?
And if you fall, does this have an influence?
And are the different difficulty modes also available in multiplayer mode?

And can you finish wih a rider out of the time limit so the rider has to leave the remainder of the tdf?


Effort doesn't have any influence over dayfeelings.
Falls does not have influence.
Difficulties are available in coop and versus mode.
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Re: Tour de France : Questions/Answers

Message05 Juin 2015, 10:00

tijmen122 a écrit:Hello patatrasse

Is there any future that we didnt know??
And is there a chance that multiplayer (online) is comming to TDF2015 ?
And not a question for patatrasse: zijn er ook nederlanders op dit forum ??

Ps thanks patarasse for the quick replys and help.


The only domain we did not talk about is the Artificial Intelligence. Except saying that we have change some behaviour that players did not like such as leaders attacking too earlier on last climb, it is quite difficult to explain what we've done and to size how it affect the game.

In mountain stages, the most visible thing is that favourites for TDF use their teamates as much as they can to harden the race. They also use their weaker teamates for the beginning of the stage, keeping the strongest for the end. Leaders attack when "écrémage" has been done.

We also change some collaboration rules. Before, when 2 leaders were escaping together, if one of them was exhausted, the other one was still relaying. Now he attacks, even if he is weaker.

On mountain finish, riders launch the sprint depending on their remaining energy, not depending on the distance.

We also redo the "concept" of direct opponent to improve when a rider wants to collaborate or not. On mountain stages, breakaways also do "écrémage" when the breakaway is too big.

We also work on the mountain classification so that a well rank rider try to escape on stages with a lot of point and prefers to stay in the peloton on stage where there not a lot of points. Mountain sprint have also been changed so that riders don't always launch the sprint when there are only 300 meters remaining.

We work on flat finish sprint so that exhausted riders doesn't slow anymore the peloton.

We work also do some changes on attacks. when a rider attacks, then he'll do a big effort whereas before he was easy to catch up. When a rider is hitting the wall, he not considered as a "raton", avoiding to dissrupt the whole breakaway.

There is some more points but it is mostly fix abouts some particular situations.
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Re: Tour de France : Questions/Answers

Message05 Juin 2015, 10:23

Thank you.

There was also a bug in tdf 2014 that if i played with valverde, he always was in the lead group so i was unable to protect him. Is this fixed as well?

And another question, what gc rider is the weakest and the strongest on the cobblestones? And who is considered the best rider and team to win the tour?

and is the speed of the simulation the same as 2014 or can it go faster?
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Re: Tour de France : Questions/Answers

Message05 Juin 2015, 13:56

Peeters a écrit:Thank you.

There was also a bug in tdf 2014 that if i played with valverde, he always was in the lead group so i was unable to protect him. Is this fixed as well?


Yes, this has been fix.

Peeters a écrit:And another question, what gc rider is the weakest and the strongest on the cobblestones? And who is considered the best rider and team to win the tour?

and is the speed of the simulation the same as 2014 or can it go faster?


Best GC rider on cobblestone is Nibali. Difficult to say who is the weakest. The difference on cobblestones caracteristics between others GC rider (Froome, Contador, Quintana) is small. They are around 60 whereas Nibali is 70.

Best rider is among Froome, Contador, Nibali, Quintana. Results depends on their race day condition along the Tour.
They all have a strong team with very good teamates to help them (Porte for Froome, Majka/Kreuziger for Contador, Aru/Fuglsang + Boom on cobble for Nibali, Valverde for Quintana).

Speed simulation is the same than in TDF14. Nonetheless, speed simulation is faster on PS4/One than on PS3.
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Re: Tour de France : Questions/Answers

Message05 Juin 2015, 15:18

Patatrasse a écrit:The only domain we did not talk about is the Artificial Intelligence. Except saying that we have change some behaviour that players did not like such as leaders attacking too earlier on last climb, it is quite difficult to explain what we've done and to size how it affect the game.

In mountain stages, the most visible thing is that favourites for TDF use their teamates as much as they can to harden the race. They also use their weaker teamates for the beginning of the stage, keeping the strongest for the end. Leaders attack when "écrémage" has been done.

We also change some collaboration rules. Before, when 2 leaders were escaping together, if one of them was exhausted, the other one was still relaying. Now he attacks, even if he is weaker.

On mountain finish, riders launch the sprint depending on their remaining energy, not depending on the distance.

We also redo the "concept" of direct opponent to improve when a rider wants to collaborate or not. On mountain stages, breakaways also do "écrémage" when the breakaway is too big.

We also work on the mountain classification so that a well rank rider try to escape on stages with a lot of point and prefers to stay in the peloton on stage where there not a lot of points. Mountain sprint have also been changed so that riders don't always launch the sprint when there are only 300 meters remaining.

We work on flat finish sprint so that exhausted riders doesn't slow anymore the peloton.

We work also do some changes on attacks. when a rider attacks, then he'll do a big effort whereas before he was easy to catch up. When a rider is hitting the wall, he not considered as a "raton", avoiding to dissrupt the whole breakaway.

There is some more points but it is mostly fix abouts some particular situations.


All of this sounds very good :)
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Re: Tour de France : Questions/Answers

Message05 Juin 2015, 17:41

Juste une petite question au sujet de l'état de forme aléatoire. Est ce purement aléatoire avec une probabilité d'être en méforme équivalente pour tous les coureurs, selon le niveau de difficulté ?
J'ai compris que l'effort du jour fourni n'influençait pas la probabilité de méforme mais je pensais que peut être la statistique de récupération aurait un impact...
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Re: Tour de France : Questions/Answers

Message05 Juin 2015, 20:58

And what about the bonification seconds? Is that integrated in the game? Because they are in the tdf of this year
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